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Updates and Chaos Marines

Ok, here’s the skinny on what’s been going on in the downtime:

Footslogging chaos marines have finally finished up.

Havoc squads were worth thier weight in pure awesome.

Lesser Daemons proved thier worth as a backup unit or as a cheap objective camper.

Any icon other Chaos Glory doesn’t work well for me, because the squad will break while under half strength. My dice betray me often on this.

I also learned what you can really do with joe chaos marines and what they can and can not handle. My intuitive grasp of how I can use my troops has improved.

I’ve alos learned to think farther ahead for what I want my units to do. You have to when your mobility is so limited.

I gained an appreciation for a cheap Karmoon special squad of chaos terminators. They get the job done well once you learn where to plunk them down.

Now, with this experiment wrapping up, I’m moving back into my old favored grounds with a mechanized list. But, still looking to shake things up a little and broaden my tactical horizons further, I picked up a few things I wouldn’t normally.

I’ve taken a chaos lord of nurgle in power armor with a daemon weapon for my sole HQ. He rides in a rhino with some plague marines. I normally don’t care for the randomness of daemon weapons, but I think this one will work out well with the new poisoned weapon rules in 5th Edition.

2 Chaos Dreadnoughts are also seeing some table time, and I have to admit I like the crazy little nuggets. Pop a missile launcher and a CC arm on them, pop transports or let them charge around like maniacs. They absorbed an obscene amount of fire ni thier first time on the field and still got one across the board to pull a scoring unit off the objective. For a piddly 100 points each, these guys are pretty brilliant for me. they’ve also sparked conversion ideas I’ll be working on, but that will probably take some time.

I also got around to making some objective markers. I used some nice reaper minis, mounted on the bases I use for my chaos marines, then painted them like they’d been turned to stone, with all thier old gear still hanging on them. Figure we’ve got a few old artifacts on the statues to fight over. Or even to revive them. Whatever, it’s still chaosy.

Unit Review: Summoned Lesser Daemons

This is a unit in the Warhammer 40K Chaos Space Marines Codex that is often overlooked. I mean really, it’s only 2 points cheaper then a basic Chaos Marine and has the same statline, but gives up it’s armor, weapons, and wargear to get a 5+ invulnerable, Fearless, and a quasi-deep-strike off icons.

So, it’s more fragile against most stuff it’s likely to fight. And it has trouble assaulting into cover due to a lack of grenades and a weak save. What’s it good for? Tactical Reinforcements.

Essentially, these little guys are good for popping up where you need a little extra help. They can assault the turn they arrive, so they con pop down and join an on-going assault, or tie up a nearby enemy unit that stinks in melee (hi guardsmen, how are you today?), or they can also be a cheap scoring unit to leave sitting on an objective twiddling their thumbs instead of wasting one of your pricey killy units on that job.

For example, Plague Marines are often looked to for holding an objective. But even a small squad is very expensive. And if they sit on the home objective all game while the rest of the army goes after the enemy, they usually just sit there being an expensive paper weight. Lesser Daemons can fill that same job for much cheaper.

They can also throw enemy plans off. 1 scoring unit moves near 2 objectives and the enemy commits to trying to contest the 1 the unit could likely reach. Suddenly there’s a second scoring unit and not enough enemy forces to stop them both.

Now, not every army has equal use for these things. A highly mobile army with lots of bikes, transports, raptors, etc, probably has the speed to change up the battle plan as needed. Less mechanized forces can find the extra flexibility of bringing them in quite desirable.

And that’s ultimately what lesser daemons offer. Tactical flexibility. Anytime you can reliably place a unit where it needs to be after the battle has already started shaping up, that gives you an advantage. They’re a bit on the weak side, but for the price, they’re worth it.

Footslogging on with CHaos Marines

Got in a couple more games with the footslogging chaos marines. Mech Eldar, and Mech Dark Eldar. In both cases, I found that the oblist get shot by all the anti-tank weaponry first and the prince gets shot after he eats a squad to remind people he’s there.

The Havoc squad has yet to be wiped out, and yet it consistently kills more vehicles then the obliterator squads. I basically get told the enemies just don’t have a good way to remove the entire squad.

The Lesser Daemons have been doing well. they either enter combat and die but not before killing off at least 1 unit, or they sit off in never-land camping an obscure objective that wins me the game. In a slow list like this, thier ability to pop in where I need them makes them very handy.

The big Khorne marked squads are kinda so-so. They tend to be the focus of enemy attack and often die rapidly. In fact, thier most often cause of death is fleeing from close combat and either running off the board or getting swept. An Icon of Chaos Glory would greatly alleviate that, albiet at the price of some offensive punch.

So, what I’m thinking of next:
Drop the Prince and the Oblits entirely.
Take a cheap lord.
Add in another squad or two of basic CSM with missile launchers
Change the melta squad to Chaos Glory from Khorne and add a combi-melta on the champ
Beef up the size of the main Khorne squad some more.

The net result of various tinkering on this leads to about 80 models in the army. 72 in power armor, and 8 daemons.

Other ideas:
Add in what is known as a “Karmoon Special”. It’s a squad of 4 terminators. 3 with combi-plasma, and 1 with a power fist and Heavy Flamer. It’s a deepstriking suicide squad that’s only 140 points and can unleash a lot of havoc.